I agree...nice stuff...and, have seen similar motifs done before in the software used (wavefront/alais, etc)...and, as Maya (I think) just received an Academy Award for their software, I suspect that it'll continue to be a bit cost prohibitive for the average graphics weenie (like me) to possess and use...not to mention the learning curve involved ;-) ...still is nice to dream and oggle tho ;-) ...and in the meantime I'll just have to be content with using the software I can afford and have ;-) Thanks for sharing Stan. Regards Bryan