I have Poser 4 with Pro Pack, Poser 5, Bryce 5, and Vue 4 with Mover. Hands down, the best combo at the moment is Poser 4 with Pro Pack and Vue 4 (add Mover 4 for animating Poser scenes in Vue). Don't get me wrong. I think Poser 5 has gotten a bum rap and will ultimately be my "weapon" of choice for quickly setting up scenes and animations. The problem that I have with Poser 5 is no plug in support for Lightwave, etc.