Hey Ghostofmacbeth, you hiccupped! LOL Mav after I saw you pic I forgot to come back here and comment a bit more. You did a fantastic job on your Cave piece. Wish you had posted it even larger than you did. It's a lot of incredable work and 8 days is like OUT OR SIGHT!! I think the longest render I ever had was 4 days, whew!! Do me a favor and e-mail me and I'll send you something interesting for the next time you do a cave pic. drmspinner@earthlink.net Okay? Anyways I'm very impressed with your pic! Verdie : )