I think if there hadn't been so many problems with Poser 5, and more support from Curious Labs, Judy and Don would have been utilized more. I use both, though I admit I don't use the face room the way I should (I am in love with the material room, however). I imagine both characters will become extinct if Daz Studio replaces Poser 5 as the software "of choice" but, still, there is much good in Poser 5, and many possibilities left unexplored.