i agree. patience is a virtue. if someone were to program an interim (or maybe not so interim) lw plugin for poser, how would it be scripted? what language? hmmm... and i have heard that poser animation is problematic in p5. i hope it's not as bad as it sounds. i bought p5 in good faith that the company would fix all the bugs. do cl reps ever venture out this way? they must read what we write sometimes... every good company has scouts. all i can think is, get together a list of needed fixes and requests for the future, have a petition signed, and present it to cl. i guess a lot of people would think that it wouldn't help at all. maybe. but it sure wouldn't hurt. honestly, p5 was a tough decision for me, even at 150 bucks. i don't think i've ever heard so many mixed reviews of a full product in my life.