Heh.... That's why I use a NAT enabled hardware firewall gateway router on my cable line. And MS doesn't want you to know the Big Secret. All you need to do is back up your registry, identify all the extensions on the proggie you don't like, and do a search and key delete through the entire tree. That's why I don't have Outlook on my Win2k; I yanked the bugger out by the short and curlies, and deleted the backups in the dll cache folder. And once I do a little more digging, I'm going to do the same to the Win2k install on one of my renderboxes with IE. If that comes out cleanly, then it's bye bye virus magnet on the main system... >:)=