ah, Brian, Brian, Brian....... You'll be aware of most of this from our convo, but I thought I'd answer here too ;) HONESTLY - people, I have NOTHING against cat pictures. The fact I mentioned another picture by the same artist may go some way towards showing that, and I honestly think the same about other pictures in their gallery which are, quite frankly, bloody good. NOTE - The following comments are generalisations and DO NOT relate to the picture I commented on Some people think I'm on a crusade against cat pics. Nope. It is merely unfortunate that cat pictures have become the typical example of shots that are just taken without any kind of planning or aforethought. If you imagine the same image with another subject, then usually it would not receive anywhere near the number of hits. At the top of the gallery it says ".........post their work for review and critique by their peers, and learn new techniques while developing the skills that allow each individual to realize their own unique artistic vision." If people don't want to learn, or develop any new skills, then fair enough, the gallery has a different meaning to them, and there are plenty of web sites out there that welcome similar pictures with open arms, but without offering any development for the photographer - something I see as a key thing at Rosity. But for those of us do that want to stretch ourselves, I will certainly be here to lend my (albeit limited and sometimes controversial!) knowledge.... and until I comment on someone's work, I don't know whether or not they want to develop...... That's it, I've shut up. (",)