Thanks, Pete, that was indeed the fix! 98lite jumped up and purred at me again. :) And you don't have to tell me about how stable 98lite is. The only blue screen I've seen since I started using it is one I forced, by popping the CD tray when a game was accessing it. I've had friends over to try and crash it, and they one and all couldn't do it Just getting IE, Outlook, and active desktop scraped off of the OS stabilizes it. (reminds me of when I got cable installed. The cable techs came out, did the wall install, got a funny look because I had all the other stuff ready, sat down in my old chair to 'configure things'.....and nearly had heart failure when they couldn't find IE on my system. I probably spent close to an hour explaining 98lite to them. And they were supposed to be 'techs'. ouch....) Now to see how P5 and Vue work on it (I rather expect better that I expect, considering what resource hogs IE and the desktop are... 'active' or not). I do so love proggies that don't stick a lot of keys into the registry. Oh BTW, have you gotten that .ini file from Shane that adds that IE key back into the very top of the registry stack? It fools all that software that swears you need IE 5.5 or above into thinking it is actually there, so that it installs. Like the Saitek joystick drivers. Funny how well things that 'need' IE run perfectly well without it being there..... >:) And you're probably right about Shane not getting XPlite to the state he wants. But even so, getting rid of the virus magnets and resource hogs pretty much makes the 'service packs' unnecessary evils.