One word about ownership: Let anyone tell you that you cannot sell/give any program away, ie. sell (complete with all docs and copies et al) a program you no longer use, then watch for their nose to grow. Let noone tell you that you must keep this in perpetuity. There is no law that says you must own anything forever. The new owner will never be the registered owner, and will never get support/add-ons/upgrades, but as long as you keep nothing of the product (no copies) this will generally fall under the 'book use' provision. Keeping even one archive copy is illegal and immoral. And giving credit, even where none is asked for, is good form. And intellectually honest. (clear conscience) MadRed