People...as everything this is just one of those things...welll...until recently I plainly was starting to hate poser...really...hang ups, freeze downs...Going into poser to do something began to be an ordeal...a lot of you must know the feeling...and the culprit was...TA DA...windows bloody 98...installed Xp...and poser flies...no matter what I throw at it... But dig this...if the bloody thing asks for a bum in p4, its because it was instructed to look for a bum, but if otherwise it was instructed to look for a jpg it will use the jpg...thus... The first image is in p4 with a jpg as a bump file. The second is the same bump file transformed in bum. See ya all