I don't even own Victoria, I use Micheal for most of my pictures. I wouldn't get overly bent out of shape about V3's male morphs, I just think they were aiming at creating another type of male character. Let's not forget that Micheal 2 has Stephanie as a mesh derrivative and Daz didn't stop making Victoria when Stephy was released. There are entire websites that are devoted to Micheal pictures, they're out there! I think Micheal is alive and well and here to stay.