"IMO, v3 with the male morphs looks much more realistic than Mike. Yes, Mike looks masculine, but very few "real" men are built that way. Just look at wolf's example above; how many men have muscles bulging out of their neck and chest like that?" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- My idealized Masculine Mike figure (Hair by me!!) is just as "realistic" as the supermodel ultra beautiful giant breasted vickies that infest this forum. BTW if you want see "real men" with an utramasculine appearence watch the ulimate fighting championships or hell even pro wresting or pro football. those V3 "males" Look like soft girly men to me but to each his own.

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