I disagree with the request to drop the female morphs. I think they did a good job with Stephanie and V3male......the two work nicely as alternatives. My main complaint with Mike2 is his size (too beefy looking). I'm a computer nerd, so I think of skinny (or used to be skinny) when I think of guys, and Mike just is a pain to cloth with you start trying to lose his normal shape. I agree with the idea for stocky. Scaling the Y axis down is a decent first step, but generally looks silly. As for clothing, I'm just hoping someone offers some business style clothes for the V3 male.....then I'll have some use for 'im (sounds pretty boring, eh?) eric