rotf@chuck!!!!!!!!!! actually i have an optical mouse too..still gettin a callous! ;) i use a mouse pad cuz w/o one it wears away the pretty finish on my desk :( so i must protect it! "my" cards?! lolololol! youre so cute ;) BRAVO to Laurie!!! I think we have a winner!!!!!!! see she didnt wuss out on us! go girl!