Yes, I'm refering to the VTC training CDs. And I'm like you. I'm a visual guy. I learn quicker if I see how the tools work. I like manuals but I prefer the many tutorials that are available on the net. Most of the manuals tell you what the tools do, but I'm more interested in what you can do with those tools, like what you can create with the tools. That's why tutorials are a better way to learn a software. I noticed that there is a Carrara contest with the Carrara training CD as the first price.... Maybe, I could get it for free after all!! hehehehe Time to create.