I just went and finally bought Poser5. Finishing the 700MB download right now, last 15 Meg coming in. Been at it for 3 hrs, lol... The price was right. 145 bucks for the upgrade from P4. Excellent! If I'd bought it ove the counter here in Sweden it would have been nearly $440 including the 25% sales tax. That's for the upgrade folks!! The full version costs $840 here incl tax, a disgusting price. They won't sell many at that rate.... :] Fish