Thanks for the link Niles, I think I can use this :). My main concern I'm looking for is just a half mask so I can keep the upper half of the face exposed. Nance that pic is close to what I need :) maybe someone may know where that file came from :). If anyone is intersted in making a prop of a halfmask I would be greatfull, I can dig up some more photos if there is any intrest. Thanks again for the links :) Todd