GODspeed opened this issue on Apr 14, 2003 ยท 36 posts
PunkClown posted Wed, 16 April 2003 at 12:05 AM
Hmmmm..."they" were putting 3D down...now this is the whole problem isn't it?...if anyone had bothered to step back from the knee-jerk defensive reaction that seemed to raise it's paranoid head, you may have noticed that there were very few people in the thread that actually "put down" 3d as inferior to 2d...
It seems unfortunate that some poser defenders became guilty very quickly of suffering from the sort of thing you are complaining about, blanket statements, rash generalisations and a divisive "us & them" mentality.
As an example:*
"After having a good look around, you so called "2d guys" seem to rely on scanning your initial images in and then postworking them, how lame then is it that you blame others for using Poser to create their initial work and the post working it?"* Talk about rash generalisation!...and isn't this kind of response just as shortsighted as syndriod's (toungue in cheek, I believe) go at "Naked Vicky in the Temple Images" ~ and as for the debate about "blame-censure' well I don't buy it, I think some people just love to take offense rather than have a healthy discussion about the validity and basis in reality of a differing point of view. It's very easy to start labelling people as elitist and feeling self-rightious, because then anything further said can simply be seen as a predictable reaction by the "misguided elitist snobs". Having said that, there were a lot of positive and constructive responses in the thread, but there was also a lot of non-constructive knee-jerking too...but as had been mentioned "who cares?" ~ if you think your work has value to you, and you enjoy producing it, with whatever tools of your choice, then isn't that the main thing...human nature being what it is, not everyone will have the same tastes...and really, having differing tastes does not mean you look down upon those who don't share your tastes. The "us & them" boundaries seem very artificial to me, existing only as a catalyst for friction instead of healthy co-operation and mutual learning from each other. There are many artists who use Poser with other software and media, there are plenty of 2d artists who use Poser in their work...so where is the boundary drawn? It is an imaginary one, created in some peoples minds, by debates that go nowhere. The debate was going nowhere, fast...if you want to continue it here, fine...I'll post a link to the 2d, Art Theory and Photography forums too if you like? But once again...what exactly was the point of it? Anyone who puts down anyone elses methods of expressing themselves should simply be seen as ignorant. AS I SAID: No-one is more superior than any one else because of the medium/program or whatever they choose to express themselves with...let's all tolerate and celebrate our diversity! Or did that point get missed too?
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