"Noone has mentioned race or culture. Human beings are human beings." Yeah, I know that nobody mentioned it. That's why I mentioned it. Human beings are indeed human beings, but standards of beauty are culturally determined and therefore culturally biased. The discussion is fascinating, but let's not lose track of the fact that we are talking about a specific, if broadly influential, concept of beauty/feminity, not biological imperatives. A "real woman" can have a face like Leo McKern; it doesn't make her less a woman, and to say her face is not "female" is a bit impertinent. The discussion of what makes a "female" face is about forms (in the Platonic sense), not reality (in the bio/physiological sense). And forms are things cultures create. Let's not lose track of that.