"...who are "THEY"??" Well, PunkClown, let's start with the authors of these pearls of ecumenical wisdom: ___________________________________________________________ "I'm glad mind numbing art has a very own gallery." "I find it almost degrating that you can spend enough cash on DAZ... poser program and an ok CPU.. and waaalaa Instant Artist.." "To appease these feelings of inferiority the sad Poser artist" "you have to actually have the ability to draw (something lacking in most 3d users)" "Poser is dressing up Barbie and parading her around for your friends." ___________________________________________________________ Now, you seem to be the soul of reason, it's all good, can't we all just get along, etc. Unfortunately, you seem unable to understand how anyone would take exception to comments like those above. Aw shucks, it's just some old boys joshin', din' mean no harm. Fair enough, maybe that's the way you guys interact over in Mayberry, but us city folk are liable to get a mite riled when you start disrespecting Miss Vicky. Not to put too fine a point on it but for the most part, we were visitors in your fine town and entirely unfamiliar with the locals and their customs. This is the internet remember and without facial expression, body language etc. what you write is liable to be taken seriously by strangers. Now not for a minute do I believe that it was all in good fun and none of it serious. That's cool. If people want to spend hours laboring over a drop shadow and pronounce it art while anything else is crap, frankly neither Scarlet nor I give a damn. On the other hand, if you have an opinion that you want to get across, an idea that you want to discuss seriously, then lighten up on the sarcasm and the attitude, you'll get a lot farther. The more I think about it though, the more inclined I am to believe that such was never the intent to begin with, rather more like 'hey guys, let's lure some Poser users over here so we can put them down.' If that's the case, why not next time just give us a miss and play among yourselves quietly.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken