(shrug) - one reason that I hang around is because the rare kick-butt image I find is worth the eye-surfing past all the swill and beginners' attempts. Another is the freebies. A third is the tools and toys in the MP that pop up which I occasionally find to be worth my money. If I were just here for the art I'd have prolly left for greener pastures eons ago. As it is, there is good art here - my contention is that you have to winnow out the chaff to get to the tasty kernels of eye-candy :) /P