Thanks for the Save Advice! I see the different views, but what is the selection tool? Is it the Marque, which is that? Could I have a screen shot...,please? Thanks for the SHift tip, is control subtract? Well where is the Expand Tool? I love being a Newbie, this is to fascinating! I wish this had fold up maps like RDS5, Bryce3, Poser 3, and Photoshop... >"You can select individual vertices, lines, or polygons like this and change both sides of the face." This is just what I wanted to hear... Using The Views...O that is how! Thanks... = )