Thanks alot! I just paint the wireframe with the bucket tool...but the meshes all fill in one by one. I'd lasso the damn thing but I suck at that.. When it comes to the eyes - I don't know what to do with thoes. I want a different color than brown or whatnot, but I always paint over the iris..and I can't seem to make realistic tewxtures. I've tried using photograpical ones with the straigh on look for the face - but that doesnt seem to work for me either. I hope this is enough detail.....this is about all I do to make em. I basically want to grasp the body part of the map before I go on to the face. Would it be easier to export a figure and then import into painter for texture mapping the wireframe? I know I'm doing something wrong - I just don't know what. thanks for your help.