Neat, Magick! This topic comes up periodically, and I always have to re-google for my favorite links. [Maybe Star will put them in the resource section...] 'Chelle originally put us onto these DigitalDaan free channel mixer settings. Realy work nicely: http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop/channelmixer/channelmixer.html My favorite color to B&W site is this one: http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/b&w.htm