Thanks Tio, I noticed the "Skull X ray look after I posted it.lol I agree with you on the cape..way to much bump. The ground will be changed to be a trail in the woods. the trees need work too. they are 2d planes and blurred like that when I resized them so I gotta play with the mapping mode on that. i find myself making my outdoor scenes at night for some reason, and as a result,I put myself in tricky lighting situations. so I'll have a challenge with that too. The more I look at your cloud suggestion the more my mind cliks with some Ideas. Thanks for the suggestions Hawkfyr

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