..."if we could convince r'osity and the other gallery sites to allow us to upload in a format that supports layers, like psd.....we could load a transparent top layer to our graphics and that would be all that the tubers would come away with." Technical problem with that... most brosers won't know what to do wth a .psd file (unless you can have some sort of plugin available.) Also, GIMP puts layered images in .xcf or uncompressed .psd format - compressed .psd may not show up at all in Mac or Linux browsers. (err, the following applies in the US only, but check with local laws anyway.) Personally, if you find someone ripping off your artwork, find out where they live, and if it is close enough, you can file a court claim for copyright infringement. It's actually not all that expensive, and if you claim up to $1000.00 US, it's small claims. If the offending party doesn't show up, you win by default and their wages are garnished automatically. If they do show up, make sure there's a laptop with an internet connection handy, and be prepared to show the judge all of your intermediate stages, as well as a dated final stage that predates the "tube." It will cost you a day off of work plus a $35 filing fee (or so), but you will reap $1000.00 or so by judgement (and can even have the offender's wages garnished to insure you get it.), PLUS the filing fee. If they live out of state, you can file a complaint with the offender's Att'ys General office - some states will prosecute offenders for you. Me, I prefer to have their ISP cut 'em off at the knees... Of all the things I hate about the DMCA, ISPs do pay immediate attention to DMCA violation notices, and will act on them in a heartbeat - this is how you find your violator and discover where they live... and if they use something like Yahoo!, then Yahoo! can be talked (upon your showing them evidence of violation) into providing the home ISP info of the offender.You then go to the home ISP and let them know what's up, demanding a remedy to the situation. To avoid losing safe harbor protection, the ISP usually cuts the offender's account off. The expense and frustration DSL and Cable users will find in re-establishing an Internet connection (if you're lucky, they're stuck with going back to AOL on dial-up) is more than enough punishment (evil grin.) /P