I sent Yahoo an email with a note that I'd fax them anything they wanted once I'd heard back from them. I don't like to fax stuff unannounced (mostly because for me it's an international call). What I'd really like is to get confirmation from Yahoo of Tina's IP address and then go to her ISP directly. I've done this in the past (mostly with websites, of course). It won't ultimately stop her (she can get a different account), but it will inconvienience her. By the way, I heard from someone else who joined those groups to look around that one of the rules is that you should never put the "real" artist's name in the work, so basically they KNOW they're stealing and doing wrong and violating copyright. They're a little nest of sleazy thieves and THEY KNOW IT. They seem to take pride in stealing. I guess everyone's got to be proud of something they can do. If all you can do is steal, then, well... smirk bonni

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