Mickey, Tailor does work, it's not a rip off. But it has limitations. It's not as good at approximating morphs that make the cloth SMALLER (pull vertices together) as it is at making bigger MTs. So BreastSize 1 will work so-so, BreastSize 6 will be fine, that sort iof thing. Especially clothing with very high vertex counts doesn't work well. Also, the main issue with Tailor is to work out how to use the app - there are a lot of different ways to configure and use it. I sometimes spend many hours tranfering MTs to just one cloth - some of them as groups, some as body morphs, some individually, depending on how they work and combine with other morphs. There is no such thing as too many morphs - I have pieces of clothing with hundreds and hudreds of tailor-made MTs in them that work fine, including catsuits and the like. Danny, you will always get peek-through. No avoiding that. There's a huge amount of dial tiddling required sometimes to get away from it, for each variation of a pose. To avoid it altogether, you need P5 and dynamic cloth. That's the only way - collision detection. :] Fish