I'm using trueSpace 3, and it can also use the filters, though when I bought them, Lensflare came with a special trueSpace version. I don't render in tS though. This is a Poser render, surprising as it may seem. I just wish I could do textures. The ship looks great without them, imagine how cool it would look WITH them. Guess I'll have to learn. :) Greywolf