Strange, but this is something we've been doing in Bryce for years (generate an elongated sphere to simulate the wet layer). Since Bryce 3D (It Moves!)/Poser 3... Still, not to be ruthless or egotistical but is this the best P5 can do internally? Although the eyes look awesome, they hardly look realistic, especially compared to the regular P4 Stephanie fig rendered in Bryce. Much less LW or Maya renders... I don't think Poser can actually calculate refraction index properly, or something of the sort... Still Sue, you are getting really close, and keep it up!