Um............one more time real slow for those of us that abused our brains over the three day weekend here in the states. We are basically going to a pay site? That is pay or you can't post? Or is it just a pay gallery for those who feel their work should have a place for posterity and are willing to pay for it? If it is the second choice that is fine. It might sort out the snooty ones and let the rest of us play nice with each other. If it is the first one I think its a bad idea. I still think we should have a WIP gallery and it would take some of the traffic away from the regular gallery. I think only about two of mine would make it into the regular gallery if there was a WIP. The forum was a nice start but people don't go to the forums as much as they do the galleries. Anyway, whatever you do is what you will do but that was my two cents. Recap: All pay site = bad Need WIP gallery Paste tastes better with crackers.