I've recently joined a few of the groups that are suspect to see what kind of media is being traded. The following quote is by one of the members of the group (no name added to protect the guilty), and is a perfect example of what is happening. It might be one thing if these were used for personal use only, but unfortunately that is not the case... ------------------------------------------------------ "I know everyone is really tired of hearing about the copy-right bs. I just thought I would add my 2 cents since I do side work for a licensing company. Yes, there are copyright laws and should we be distributing licensed material, no. But, the company I do work for is the licenser for some big name companies and I've seen some of there things on other websites and groups, but I can tell you right off the bat, most big companies are not interested in the little man/woman (no offense please), they are looking for those who are making big money off of their product. If someone is not comfortable with what they see being exchanged on this or any other group, they should just remove themselves without making a big commotion about it. It is as easy as that. I personalize wrappers. I know the laws, but there are times when I have a customer who wants a licensed character. I'm not going to give up that sale. I'm not making any major money off it either. If a company comes after me, hey, I don't have much for them to get. It really isn't worth it in legal fees alone to come after me. I do send in letters requesting permission and from many I have been told to pay a licensing agreement of $2500. Not worth it. I have also been told okay at no charge, but was told I could not put it on my website as a sample. No matter what an attorney tells you, if it is not from the companies attorney, then it is not a problem. I'm sorry for going on and on about this, but at this point I think this person has gone quite overboard about it." -----------------------------------------------