Dodger: "I'm afraid I can only express disdain for people trying to argue against my quoting of USPTO explanations with 'theory' and what passes for logic or at least philosophy" If I applied the logic you're presenting, then the entire point of a trademark vanishes. Well, tell you what, Dodger. Let's put it to the people who actually own the trademark and see what they say. If BMW and Harley say no problem, I'll be happy to post it. But sorry, I don't agree with the stretched application of the law as you describe it. You yourself even write: "If I sold a Millenium Falcon Poser figure, I couldnt' call it that, and if I called it that, it couldn't look like it." The DAZ Harley not only looks like one, it has the name as well. And BMW Z7 sure looks like a Beemer Z7 to me. So I'm not sure how we juggle between the two. Oh wait, that's just theory on my part, right? But like I said, it's not that big a deal to send a note off to the trademark holders and see what they say. Who knows, maybe they'll even say there's an NDA with the brokers, in which case everyone winds up happy. But if it's all the same to you, at this point I think I'd really prefer asking the folks who actually own the goods.