Aye, this is a cool thread! Learning new things is good, o course... I apologize again for my arrogance, because I've NEVER seen a fornix on ANY render, ever! But lets all make some fornix-based pics, and see what we can come up with? I'll render mine in Bryce or LW, and maybe we can compare results? I'm not much good with Poser 5 yet, and I doubt I can achieve the desired results in Poser 4PP...