nontroppe,I got Poser3 on a cover disk,about a year ago,and was able to upgrade to Poser4 from that. Most people don't know it,but many of the softwear companys do let you upgrade from those cover disk versions(not always,but often).They don't advertise that fact so you do have to ask about it.In my case CL let me upgrade to only Poser4..not ProPack or Poser5,for $109.00.Since then,I added ProPack,and am very happy with it. SWAMP