I look in on other renderosity groups from time to time and am a user of Carrara studio . I have bryce 3d from a magazine cover disc that I have used and enjoyed in the past. I check in here for info on bryce etc. The Carrara pic here is not very good at all. This does not represent carrara at all . I am sure everyone knows it is the persons talent to a large degree ,rather than the software that makes decent pics. I am an average Carrara studio user,so the pic I am posting is far from the best Carrara can do . It was fun doing as I havent modelled anything like this in ages.(I do architecural renderings.)I hope bryce has a future. P.S Took 45 minutes. Regards Mike Moir