Strange, I sent this but the thread linkage did not register it. I shall try again. Velvet, I have a freeware buffalo somewhere on my CD's. It is a non-posable Buffalo in Bryce OBP format. Unfortunately, I no longer have the URL ( it was soooo long ago ). I shall e-mail it to you if you send me a privvy-email on where to send it. Jaager. Point taken. Apparently, your knowledge and experience on matters of American Culture is way beyond my horizon. My personal education on europian history (Germany, in particular), has a hostile tinge embedded within. Nothing to be proud of. So I wish to apologise to you. I took Velvet's request at face value, because this is a Poser Forum where fantasy rules. It does not really matter why Velvet wanted the said items. Although, now that we know the thoughts behind Velvet's request, it does make things more interesting. Keep well (All) Siegbert :)