Just to play devil's advocate here: Khrys's first post indicated that there was never any question about quality, just delivery. And I don't see much wrong with expressing that, certainly nothing that warrants the pile-up from both people who love the PC and certain members of the DAZ staff. If anything, K went out of his way to say how great the products were, but that kinda got lost in the backlash that erupted in response. For myself, I'll be curious to see if the current DAZ obsession with things for V3 will be matched when M3 is released. That should be an interesting barometer.