Thanks Anton :) And I'm like Judith, postwork is fine, but when I'm getting ready to start a texture for sale also, as a developer, I'm sure not going to "expect" my customers to post work something out. That plainly sucks and you might as well put it in freestuff, I don't expect people to have to postwork anything if they have paid their hard earned money for it. Thanks for your workaround Anton, I really appreciate it!! That is something the 3rd party developers can put into their readme's for their customers, so they will know ahead of time this may happen and what to do if it does. That and the weird thing on the texture (which I'm still not sure what that is) was the only two things I have found in the quick time that I worked with the cloak. I was and am still in love with it and can't wait to try it out in some actual renders :) Pendy