To all who tried to fix this problem, a big thanks. If for anything, it was a great learning experience this weekend working for the first time in Vue D' Esprit. Old habits die hard(Bryce), but when you just feel the urge to work with a great model, sometimes you gotta just bite the bullet and work in a new program. Vue shows promise, and seems to handle the models that Bryce can't, so for all of us die-hard Bryce fans, let's hope they continue to work on keeping it a great program as well. Thanks again- Todd aka:tempest967