Thanks for the comments. I agree about never being finished with a piece of work... lol... Interesting thing, Mark... Ambient light is set to zero... I thought there was a lot of light in the scene too... Maybe I just have the lights I have in there up too high. I have shape lights over the brain and the head in the background, a bulb light for the candle light, and that's it. Wait, I think the default "Light 1" is still in the scene, but I think I turned it down low too... Oh well, that was one of the critiques I had of the scene myself... Just chalk it all up to continuing-the-learning-process... (which never ends... LOL) HG...