Ah, Mock - that is exactly why I keep practically EVERYTHING I find out there. Which makes for enormous amounts of zips and thumbs over the last 6 years. At the present rate, about 1,5 GB of Poser stuff per month, you can imagine the space it all occupies... Then I only install the ones I need. The rest gets kept in waiting, in case. The hard part is finding things. And of course I often completely forget what I have. :] Fish