I must admit that I have never had Victoria (You see, some people cannot buy via internet with Visa - hey, they have only Visa Electron! Oh, joy!) and was so to say - sentenced - to Possettes. I do not complain. She does require an extra amount of work, i suppose, but there are so many lovely characters for her out there! Especially those Japaneese ones. Anyway, how about Judy? I have Poser 5 and I can't understand why so many people detest Judy. Just like Possette, she doesn't look good by default, but that's the charm of it... er, her. I don't like using everything pre-done for me ?(like pre-cooked food, yuck!) I need to do mosy of the things myself, and that's the issue with Judy and Possette. Than they get that personal feel. And soul. All right, it's getting bored. If You don't believe something pretty can be made out of Judy, check my gallery. Months of hard work. Probably soon in marketplace. If You want her.