{Good point John, when are you going to have the tutorial for newbies on "avoiding spyware" ready?} That's not a bad idea. I'll see what I can come up with. If I make a tutorial, at least then my complaints will have a little more weight if I tell people how to avoid the spyware. {Tim has nothing to do with the spyware coming from the site} Then who does? Ahh... Angelfire, his hosting company? Why doesn't he go a real provider then, instead of a "free" one... "free" meaning no cost to the person, but pop-ups and spyware to visitors.