The thing is, that at this price, Vue is a bargain, and if you ever thought of buying it then this is the time to do it. The only thing that Vue does better than Bryce IMO is the vegetation and to change to Vue for that only just isn't important enough, 'cos you can always work around such things in Bryce. I'm still optimistic that Bryce will have a champion who will save the program and make it better. There are so many people who have worked in the making of Bryce who still love the program that there has got to be a way to bring it back from the brink. This is me being over optimistic probably but you never know. Catlin