Yes, Cooler. I forgot to mention that it's better used as a bump map! :-) I rarely use poser for renderings anymore. So, i'm a bit "Spoiled" by the Better shaders & lights of C4D. This glass texture's been around for a few years. I think Caszie's site still has the original prop. I just need to find her site again... But, i must admit that finding solutions in Poser can be both a headache & Fun! "The Sweet & the Sour..." :-)) Thanks for the tip Cooler! Marco