Doogal-- Sorry, I wasn't cracking wise; I was seriously suggesting that the Face room isn't the solution, especially with Victoria's extraordinary wealth of morphs. I'd make my own "Face room" by setting up PSP on half the screen with my mug shots, and P5 on the other with the Face Camera in the Pose room, and dial away. Getting the face you want with the Face room, even on Judy's body, is no picnic. The Face room is essentially a toy for making Avatar heads to use in Adobe Atmosphere. If it does manage to create a face vaguely resembling the photo, chances are the neck will be so torqued that you'll need magnets to fix that. The green dots on the Face room photo are just Morph Putty dots. So eliminate the Face room from the equation; use the Morph Putty on Vickie in the Pose room. You are just as likely (IMHO more likely) to get good results. Maybe SR3 will improve the Face room, but until that neck thing is fixed, I'm not interested.