And one more still. Waay back awhile, when I first started getting these, I had to track down a DLL, which I think was TK80 or somesuch! I'm not a Python writer (snakehead?) though I have had snakes in the past, but my wife didn't like it. Anyway, don't mean to ramble. I must say that I periodically get Python related errors, even outside of environment creator, and I'm at a loss as to what could be the cause. I'm surmising it must be something missing rather than something present and contraindicatory.