Here's a classic - don't just close down Poser and restart. Don't even just reboot Windows. Switch off the computer completely, then restart, reload. has worked for me on occasion. Due to non-communication between Windows and Poser, probably. I keep every single PZ3 I ever make, all the work versions of everything, ever. So I have many gigs of them, like 40 gig or so. Many, many hundreds of files. But it means that if one file is dead, the next (or previous) one will most likely work OK. I also keep a basic render for each one so I know what it looked like. Very convenient way of keeping track of everything I do. I've been glad for it many a time. :] Fish