Oh no, I really don't like Zeiss at all. None of their lenses matches the Nikkor primes :) Maybe I could just trade a few lenses for a range finder that's small and doesn't make much noise. I once was in a beautiful medieval church, here in town, and this cute little girl was just about to light a candle when this old lady who was sitting in front of here (just outside the picture) noticed me and turned around, giving me a very nasty look (like meaning to tell me "this is a church, not an attraction"). Also the only real thing that I don't like about the F4 is the loud shutter. One shot in a quiet place just gives you away completely. Very annoying. So like I said before, it's not that I want to sell the camera, but that I need something different for certain circumstances. (I hardly ever use my 180/2.8 cause it makes my camera looks huuuuuuuuge) :)